guest: he's from texas originally and spent his time in oklahoma and worked at exxon. he has a lot of relationship with foreign leaders and probably spent most of his 10 year as c.e.o. of sexon mobile, meeting these foreign leaders and establishing relationships with them and trying to extract oil and gas from their countries. so that's the breadth of his experience he would take into the role of secretary of state. he is chair of a number of organizations, he's been the chairman of the boy scouts of america and a few other nonprofits as well and has a normal slate of activities he is involved in as chief executive of exxon and been suggested as secretary of state for some time now. host: he spent 40 years at exxon, clearly a long career at this one company but no prior experience for public service. how do wing his time at exxon might influence the way he approaches u.s. foreign relations. guest: that's a good question. i think what we know, he hasn't said a lot about his particular ideology, but the things we know about what he thinks lead us to believe that he sort